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The competition is so good now, that in my opinion GoPro set the benchmark, but no longer hold the monopoly.

Insta360 and DJI have both upped their game and make fantastic alternatives to the GoPro. I personally use the Insta360 OneRS and the X3, and regret selling my DJI Action 2 (may repurchase it).....

Bear in mind overheating issues are not just suffered by GoPro. Many other cameras are the same - part of the parcel when you are packing such high performance into a small physical frame I'm afraid. Saying that, I've yet to experience any overheating with my Insta360 cameras.....
 

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well before buying you do research, all camera companies have forums and all will report same issues

think Insta is any better, it overheats, yes
think DJI is any better does the same.

gopro is hte best, the king, NOPE been that way but greatly improved their issues good luck. in a camera..
 

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you came here just to tell us that you dont want gopro?

As has Ifti pointed out, all action cameras suffer from overheating, it just takes them longer to reach that point.
I personally never shoot longer than 1min clips and always at max 2,7k so i have never experienced it myself.

I think its harsh to put all gopros in one "basket". What i learned after all those years is that not a single gopro is identical, they all have unique combination of issues.
 
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The staff on this site have no affiliation with GoPro - in the fact site itself has no affiliation with GoPro whatsoever.
No-one will be shot-down because they have an issue with GoPro - we are completely free to air our frustrations and annoyances here, no issue with that from an admin side at all. Hence why the thread has not been removed. There was no need to edit the first post or change anything. You have your opinions and we respect that.

I think its harsh to put all gopros in one "basket". What i learned after all those years is that not a single gopro is identical, they all have unique combination of issues.
Yes, some GoPro's are 'good' and users experience no issues at all. In fact, a large number may be perfectly fine, otherwise, with the amount of GoPro's sold, there would be a class action lawsuit and an uproar! However, it's the fact that GoPro can't seem to keep that consistency - maybe a quality control issue somewhere down the line? It's the support that is lacking though - how GoPro tend to deal with customer issues. Again, many may be fine, but I've had first hand experience of it also, and it wasn't positive!
 

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think you got the car thing wrong, its miles per gallon.

gopro fixed the overheat issue, was stupid easy, all people shoot under 70 seconds. we do not defend gopro , hop you sort your issues out
 

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GoPro cannot fix the overheating issue no matter how much they try. The issue is down to simple physics. You have powerful chips that run hot. The heat needs to go somewhere and it cant because its stuck inside a small, water sealed, frame. There's no way to get round this if you want a small, powerful, camera.

GoPro's 'fix' was simply to offer a 'tripod mode' that clocks down the chipset and lowers settings - thus the chip isn't running as hard, hence producing less heat in the first instance. I do not call this a fix. I call is a workaround. DJI went a step further. Their 'fix' was to provide all users with a case to wrap around the camera - granted, it was good of them to provide all customers past and present a free case (something GoPro would never do) but again, they doesn't fix the root issue (which cant be fixed) - all it did was allow the camera to run hotter without burning your fingers as the case is in-between!

So there is no 'fix' to the overheating issue. The only way to do it is to change the camera design - make it larger or introduce heatsinks, which could compromise the waterproofing abilities - or to reduce the power, and hence heat, being produced in the first instance, which means lower settings.....we've just come to a point where the physical camera frame cannot handle the power inside it - a tough nut to crack.

When it comes to refurb cameras, this isn't just GoPro, all companies generally do this - even Apple. A unit is returned, goes through a testing process, then it's case is replaced making it look new, and its provided as a swapout. Can you imagine how much it would increase costs providing brand new units with every exchange? Bad for the consumer, but good for GoPro's investors.....
 

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the tempeture threshold sensor protects the camera, and can be adjusted/tweaked a few degrees higher, and that will prevent the camera from shutting down, they did it once and felt this is the sweet spot.
 

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I am not picking on you Boznoz but you actually prove the reviews I have seen as correct and you make the case for the unreliability of the camera. Some you tubers appear to have success with them; but even on some of them I have seen the occasional problem occur with one of the 2 or 3 cameras they have running. But there are a number of reviews stating the overheating problems and the lack of customer support. Getting the "unlucky" faulty camera is one thing; poor support or no support and having a new camera swapped out for a 2nd hand camera is to me intolerable. I came here originally hoping to find people who could tell me they have never had problems or the problems can be easily overcome. But even in this forum are many statements of problems which also confirm the other reviews I have read.
Anyway thanks for the replies. All is good
You are focusing on the wrong aspect here.
All Hero cameras up to Hero 7 i ever owned had literally no issues at all.
Hero 9 i currently own has only one flaw, and thats the audio is unusable for the first 20sec until the camera heats up.
I shoot 1min video because thats all i need and i dont use the audio at all. On multiple occasions i accidentaly started recording inside my backpack (no cooling, no air flow) and when i noticed it there was 30-35min long video and still recording. Yes it was in 2.7k, but again thats all i need.

Let me correct your car analogy:
You buy a porsche 911 whic has top speed of 180mph / 270kmh. I wonder how long will your car last before it breaks down when you use it to its full potential constantly. I bet not very long.
Same with Gopro, having 5k (its "top speed") is the most its capable of, when used wisely.

Do you know why there are so many negative reviews? Because Gopro Hero is the most sold camera ever. And the more gopros there are , the more people might encounter a problem, which they then happily cry about on the internet.
 

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Let me share different perspective for you.

For the past 8years Gopro has sold roughly 40 to 50 million units.
If ALL of them were bad , you would see 40 million complains on the internet and Gopro would go bancrupt long time ago.

The reason you see only issues here on our site is because people with issues purposefully come to this forum to seek advice for their issues. Same with official gopro community website.
Very rarely you see someone come here to share with us how happy they are and how they got amazing holiday video from last summer.
In grand scheme of things, you are seeing less than 1% of unsatisfied users complaining.
 
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Let me share different perspective for you.
I take your point. Thank you. I was originally trying to find reason to trust them. I think then the bigger issue is the generally claimed lack of customer support in the event of problems or problem resolving. I would actually like to use one to shoot in 1080P as a constant thing. For the whole of the battery life then simply change battery and keep shooting all day. Probably with audio but not sure and maybe not all the time. Do you; or any other person agree that the camera should normally be able to do that all day without any problem issues? Just because it can shoot higher definition does not mean I ever want to use it for that.
 

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Lower resolutions are not very taxing on the chipset and will not work it as hard, hence you will be able to shoot 1080p video all day long without worrying about overheating.
Its only the higher resolutions and frame rates that push the chipset even harder, and hence create extra heat.
 

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Thank you Ifti. That is good to know. I still have concerns about what appears to be poor support in the event of a problem; but that gives me hope the camera might actually be fit for my intended purpose. I will continue to look into them.
 

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There is always support, and that is where we fit in, Otheriwse this site be dead in the water
 
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