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post #21 of 31 Old 10-11-2018, 05:49 AM
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You are repeating yourself over and over again, ignoring the point. Having a way to work around problems is great , but you should always aim for a solution, workarounds are temporary.
From your posts i suppose you have a living as a photographer / cinematographer?
I honestly cant wait til you will have a very important shoot for a lot of money and your H7 gives up in the middle of the shoot and you will loose everything you shot. That might open your eyes and u might start caring about solutions.

Freezing is the main issue here, and the biggest one. Together with quick battery draining. And everyone who experiences it should get in touch with gopro to make sure they actualy work on fixing it, rather then concentrating all their efforts on Hero 8. Because so far it seems that Gopro forgets about their products the moment they announce it.
That's how you get things done really. How one accomplishes that doesn't change much conceptually.

None of my GoPros freeze, none of them have in the past either. I would not lose everything in some shoot as I have a number of cameras, so you may be waiting for awhile. That's a good practice in general. I only use top microSD cards from known good sources, and OEM batteries, keep firmwares up to date, format properly etc. I also mess with new things before some important event, good idea in general.

On battery draining, sorry it's not an issue for me. I did notice some claiming it's more from one OEM battery supplier than another a few times. So I noted this to keep in mind, and found an easy way to tell which is which. I only have one of the possibly suspect Dongguan's in my batch of batteries used often. Check yours for source if you'd like:
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On firmwares many seem to have difficulty doing that. Mostly I just do the manual method where u put that folder onto a card and load that into a camera with a charged battery, hit on and wait. Again never a problem, just follow the basic steps it has been the same for many years. I suggest staying away from the app methods, especially for android devices as they vary more than iOS devices.

On batteries I only use OEM bought from a known good source. GoPro has many of its products copied and batteries are one of them. Counterfeits. I saw some on Amazon that are supposedly OEM but for a great price. Many reviews noting they are fake, so I will pass. You can buy OEM for about 20% off (in the US) via the plus program so 16 dollars. Sure aftermarket ones are cheaper but not all that much. Since batteries and cards are so important for these devices the extra few dollars for OE sounds fair to me. The aftermarkets I have used have all had less duration than OE, not great on a device with short battery charge life.

For peace of mind at events it's a good idea to have spare cards, batteries and power source. I use a roughly 30,000 mah PD capable battery. USB and USB-C ports. It can charge GoPro batteries rapidly if needed, power GoPros directly, charge or operate a Mac laptop for a LONG time. Again, just good practice. Also have a car charger socket thing in the bag. USB and USB-C ports. Car has a solar charger too with about 25 watts output. As I use a 4# lithium for the vehicle, but that function can help in a pinch too.

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Well if your H7 is from the lucky ones, good for you. But @Fish already experienced the freezing problem , if i understood him corretly.

Thumbs up for how you are prepared for your work, i didnt expect that much dedication.
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Lastly, GoPros are geeky products good for action purposes. If someone prefers not to geek they are likely to run into way more GoPro issues than a geek like me. I just read a couple examples of folks going thru "nightmare" firmware updates. That must be stressful for them. Both were doing the app method.

"That update process was a nightmare as well. GoPro App didn't work, manual update didn't work, Quik desktop didn't work. Finally, I think I recorded something with the camera, then the camera version info are stored in the MISC directory of the card and Quik desktop then recognize there is an update for it. And the update hung the first time also. Took me hours of testing and trying different things to get that to go through."

If I were helping out that person ^, I'd just do it the way that works great for me. Download the folder via laptop, put that onto a listed and genuine card, load into charged camera with genuine OE battery and hit on...and wait. 100% success rate for me. Does not take long at all...say 5 minutes start to finish while sipping on a coffee? Some spend hours on it, I would not put up with that.

Some that I have taught GoPro to get frustrated easily. The camera can have short delays now and then. Just let it. One guy would load in a battery, then a fraction later hit on and not have it respond as usual. I load in a battery and let the LED blink once, and then hit on. Seems to be a thing? Then behavior seem to go better. Another common issue many run into is repeated presses of the buttons like making a phone call. I avoid that but can imagine that could confuse the camera, not positive. It won't help anything in any event. Don't do that as the camera wakes up, or you are updating firmware or resetting, etc.

I see folks using GoPros to film kids soccer games from the sidelines then complain about the results...I suppose you can do that but that would not be a suggested use for these cameras from my POV. Not really their thing?

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Well if your H7 is from the lucky ones, good for you. But @Fish already experienced the freezing problem , if i understood him corretly.

Thumbs up for how you are prepared for your work, i didnt expect that much dedication.
Most GoPros are the lucky ones. The products actually don't have a sky high return rate. They sold many millions of the 5, not sure about the 6 or the 7 launch. So of course there will be many upset out of the millions sold. Most folks (unlike me) don't comment if all is well. I've had a good GoPro experience but do speak up if I run into something. I ran into a sales tax issue with them on the trade-in program. But they fixed that for me, solved.

You also want to have an up to date / recent laptop for GoPro efforts. For one thing HEVC. For another just editing large files. Lots of folks have stuttering playback and think it was a GoPro failure. But it's more a PC / Mac thing. Someone who had to really stretch their budget to get an H7B might be irritated when they find out they may want a $$$$ laptop update to go along with their new $ camera. It's prolly best to know these sorts of things in advance.

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Most GoPros are the lucky ones. The products actually don't have a sky high return rate. They sold many millions of the 5, not sure about the 6 or the 7 launch. So of course there will be many upset out of the millions sold. Most folks (unlike me) don't comment if all is well. I've had a good GoPro experience but do speak up if I run into something. I ran into a sales tax issue with them on the trade-in program. But they fixed that for me, solved.
you cant compare the quality to 5 and 6 just because they share the same form factor, 5 had different hardware all together, 6 had completely different firmware , and none of them had such issues as the 7 currently has.

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you cant compare the quality to 5 and 6 just because they share the same form factor, 5 had different hardware all together, 6 had completely different firmware , and none of them had such issues as the 7 currently has.
I'm quite satisfied with my 7 and have it mostly figured out. The POV you can see in the posts here....works. Sorry if it irritates some. The ones very irritated likely have to return their 7, wait months for a possible update or solution etc, pull their hair out. I find it way easier to do things the way I have noted. Lots more fun imo.

I think it's their best camera yet. And I've noticed some things that are not often noted as pluses but 1-2 others also have. Color / tone map benefits over the 6 and especially the 5. Reduced lens flare too, you can see that in some shots from at least two others. I look forward to the likely firmware update in say 2 months but am all set right now in any event.

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Example re lens flare. Several variables but the 7 has more shots as shown below. Some can consider that a good thing, others a bad thing. I'm in the good thing category.
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Most issues on the Market are of Users and the least issues the Camera since I got a flake a faulty one that wil lnot stop me from getting a new one again just delay till a corrected firmware made. all the Sept 20th video were selling points.

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Well that said. I feel I may repurchase wit ha Better option a better discount but not today. this kind of tells me that I can deal with the lower grade camera and get the near same results.

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