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looks like Fusion will be normal retail soon

as the title says really, looks like Fusion will soon be available off the shelf from retailers soon. The video shows the box, which i don't think is big enough to get the Fusion grip in so guess you don't get that

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It would be good and important for GoPro to sell many cams but I can't imagine that this type of cam or this way of filming gets popular.
The way I understand this new technique is that people, looking the vid has to be active to get different views of the vid and I think most people want just to look- maybe I don't see the whole thing.
I hope Fusion will get a good business for GoPro.

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As you said Jatekman, u dont see the whole thing. The idea is not just to offer you as a viewer the ability to choose angles, but to provide you as a cameraman the ability to pick angles and views in postproduction and then export it as a final product. so instead of having 6 cameras on you when you do something to capture each interesting angle, you have one camera capturing everything.
They show this on their yt channel, search for "GoPro Fusion: Introducing Mobile OverCapture with the GoPro App"

Im not saying its going to be popular, but it surely has its uses in certain situations
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Will fade over time. the over capture or what is called Key framing and using bracketing like face detection. to created a follow me thing is what people are interested in. I see $700.00 Quite expensive for a camera loaded with parts.

I liked the Burst mode and a layered photo, GoPro wished you follow through on that via camera software. many people would like that. Something that can be done . be good for the next gen gopro.

Yeah I own a 360, it collects dust till I find a use for it, and I do key framing to capture a 2-D video. I enjoy the standard way, for me.

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I think it's the coming direction for videos, and apparently for stills as well from what I hear from photographers. As I think of what I go through to be able to video all the angles I'd like to show from a kayak, 360 solves a lot of issues I've had to work around.

Plus, quality of some of these new 360 cams seems better than the current range of fixed view cams, so even if you and viewers don't use the surround view format, you still get a great experience.

Only drawback is the stitching and editing software, which some brands appear to have solved well.

Oh yeah, the price! But while Fusion is in the higher end of new non-pro cams in price, there apparently are quite a few contenders at mid and even low end of pricing, if you watch the YT reviews.

You know, B&W artistic photographers said the same thing about color when it first became commercially cheap for consumers, and still photographers said the same thing about consumer video, and film photographers said the same thing about digital. Look where we are today and you realize you cannot stop the march of technology and change.

I see this as a good move for the market and for Gopro. Too bad Nick didn't do this earlier instead of wasting time and money and reputation on forays into the "toys" market, where he didn't belong.
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One thing more, if you will permit me to expound: 360 expands markedly the second main motivation for action cameras.

The first is the "LOOK AT ME!" motivation. You've seen and probably done enough vids of your own that fit that one. The video selfie.

But the second main motivation that works exceedingly well with these action cams is the "You are there!" scenario. And 360 brings you right into that entire experience as you would had you been there yourself. Just as you would in person, you can turn your head and see the entire environment, all the action all around. That's the natural way we experience life, not just the eyes straight ahead view. You can see your feet on the rocks, the birds and clouds above your head, your companions on the trek. Now that's progress, IMO.
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Cloverfield was a first hand held camera movie I'll wait till a 360 movie hits a theater. in Imax that is

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The way I understand this new technique is that people, looking the vid has to be active to get different views of the vid and I think most people want just to look- maybe I don't see the whole thing.
I hope Fusion will get a good business for GoPro.
the good thing about Fusion is you decide how people view your video. You can spare it as a 360 video/picture, in which as you say the viewer gets to decide where they want to look. Or you can use overcapture & save the video as a normal flat scene, in which the field of view is locked by the editor & watching what they want the viewer to see

it really is weird not having to worry about "is it in shot, will it capture it". As long as the height is right, you've got it on video
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The overcapture thing sounds interesting- one of my filming genres is racing an I can imagine that using this technique I would have all the angles (and more) as using 4 cams and it would be also more fluent to change views.
It would be very interesting to check this out.

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we've had my mates race car kitted out with 7 GoPro's at once before now. Here's a quick test I did with Fusion in mine, quality is only 3.2k because of laptop can't cope with 5.2k. I did do one with Fusion outside on the roof of the car, but can't seem to find that now

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